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Subject: Re: What do you think of this Date sent: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:35:17 -0400 From: Mike Davidchik, davidchik@oro.net In response to Audrius attacks on Litvania Mike Davidchik wrote: Audrius ....Your ignorance about the the history or current affairs of Belarus could fill the Grand Canyon. Lukashenka is hardly pro-Belarussian. He is a former Soviet Communist apparatchik who thinks he is a Russian. He is diametrically opposed to the Litvanian group. The re-opening of Belarussian history has nothing to do with either Lukashenka or the current state of affairs. Like the Baltics, it was russified and sovietized. Under Czarist and Soviet control for three centuries, its real history was lost. Some nationalists are trying to reach out to the West and you are shitting in their faces. This is reflective of stupid ethnocentric jerks in the Baltics who think that you can build a country in the 20th Century based upon "tribalism" and ignorant prejudice. Belarusian ties with modern day Lithuania go back to the 12th Century when the Balts paid tribute to the Prince of Polacak, and later, when these Slavic tribes, known collectively as Bela Rus, united with the Lithuanian princes in the 14th Century, to keep the Teutons, Mongols, and Moscovities out. Please look at the maps of the 14th through 17th Centuries. Old Lithuania once spread from the Baltic to the Black Sea. It was a multi-ethnic or multi-national country and not just a few villages around Kaunas! For the 15th and 16th Centuries, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Samogitia, and Rus, was more modern, progressive, advanced, and tolerant than the Baltic states are today. Mike Mike, thanks a bunch for your vehement (AND well-grounded) support!
From: "Boris Zyryanov", borisz@worldnet.att.net Date sent: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:52:14 -0400 The page is impressive. I have read alot about the history of Belarus' and glad someone decided to bring VKL back to light :) (It was not taught in schools at all during the KPSS rule, they taught the KPSS version instead) Don't remember the name Litvania, however. Your transliteration technique is still very confusing. A little question: why is the page completely written in English? Not that I have anything against English, just having a Litvanian-language alternative would be nice. (t.e. make a copy of the page translated to Litvanian.) I wouldn't want to see a Belorussian translation though, as I cannot stand this horrible mixture of Russian with Old Belorussian, not to mention I dislike it in general. - Boris
Date sent: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:01:12 +0200 From: ZEUM Zeum@mag.gdynia.pl Organization: Morska Agencja Gdynia It's been very hard to connect Your page, lately. When the "jezyk polski" web side will be ready as well as as "licvinskaja mova" ? Pozdrowienia. Marek Redzimski We are making Licvinskaja version in a week or two. For Polish -- well, I don't know. Any volunteers?
From: Young Front mfront_blr@yahoo.com Date sent: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:35:31 +0300 Vitaju! Na vaszaj staroncy, nazal, jos'c' istotnaja pamylka. Kniastva/Hercahstva pa-anhielsku 'Duchy', a nia 'Duchee'. Prynamsi, mienavita taki pieraklad ja baczyu usio papiaredniaje zyc'cio. Vitaju pierszuju bielarusku-webmajstarku! Pos'piechau! Alaksej Carniajeu, Malady Front Kali laska, adkazvajcie mnie tolki na mfront@visit.to, niezalezna ad taho, adkul ja piszu.
From: "Alexey" fenix@pol.ru Date sent: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:24:43 +0400 Ideja vielmi fajnaja. Minusy - niama interfejsu z prostymi bielaruskamounymi shukal'nikami u I-necie. Rastlumacie, kali laska, jak zkacac' drajvery dliz cytan'nia bielaruskaje lacinki j hedac dalej. Mahu ciabie upeunic' , sto bol'sas'c' bielarusauy Raseji patrbujuc' instrukcujau u roznych akalicnas'ciach camputarnaje hramatyki. Pvier mnie . U inshym vypadku Litva, jak Radzima (taksama jak i Belarus') moza byc' admouliena smatlikimi bielasusami maskowscyny, jakija nia viel'mi kampietentnyya u kamp'juterach Cakaju adkazu, z pavahaj Buka
From: "Viatcheslav_Britchkovski" brich@cit.org.by Date sent: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:33:18 +0200 F#ck you with your site! Anyone wants to mailbomb him? Just kidding. ;) We are pacifists.
From: "Alexey" fenix@pol.ru Date sent: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:51:48 +0400 Na zal' , vasaja adrese zablakavana j niama mahcymas'ci zajs'ci na come.again.to/litvania. Ja prosty Belarus z Maskovii, jaki maje dostup da I-netu u chacie. Viel'mi cikaulusia bielaruskimi sajtami u s'viecie. tym bol'sh, sto tycycca Litvy. Ja licu vartym viarnuc' Ajcynie spradviecnuju nazvu LITVA. Ja z'jauliajusia nacyjanalistam u dobrym sensie hetaha slova, sastaju u BNF i maju dobryja piersanal;nyja kantakty sa smat z kim ad Viacorki da Suskievica. Budu viel'mi udziacny za infarmacyju pra usie bielaruskamounya sajty. Viel'mi dziakuju. Aliaksiej Buka
From: vasiliauskas@galacticus.com Date sent: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:31:30 -0700 Why isn't Great Duke STephan Batory available on the voting page? Also, Litvania Home bars don't work. No button there. Last week I saw information available about the Independent Belarussian state 1918-1919, today I can't find it, and I want it. Yesterday I couldn't reach Litvania at all by web. Please tell me more about Independent Belarus before WWII.
Date sent: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:09:32 -0700 From: Jan H., Moscow Hleduczy na vaszy sajt, baczu adno toje, szto vaszyja dobryja plany heta pokul tolki plany, biaz ichnaha staloha azhycciawlennia praz kahos'. Razumieju, szto nieszta rabic' ciazhka, bo wsie ciapier pa szyju w dziarmie, ale adnolkava - navoszta bylo hetak spiaszacca dy w vyniku dac' nam, niebarakam-czytaczom, tolki holy szkilet sajtu? Tre bylo spaczatku choc' sztos' dakladniej razpracavac'. Dareczy, prapanavanaja vami transkrypcyja - dziwnavataja. Nawracci pisac' padobnaju josc' dobraju jdejaju, nia kazhuczy wzho ab tym, szto wzhyvajecca jana praz vas niepasladowna. Tre lepiej razpracavac' dy wzajemna wzhodnic'- z transkrypcyjami na sajtach zawzhdy atrymlivajecca adzina zhach. Czym josc dla Vas Litva? Niczym asablivym. Zyccio mianie da jaho hetulki padrychtavala, szto navat samy momant adkryccia zastawsia praz' mianie niezawvazhanym. Ci jo roznica pamiz Licvinami ji Bielarusami? A ci jsnujuc' bielarusy? Kali bielarusy heta szeryja kmieci j tlustyja dy szcze szarejszyja kabiety, jakich baczysz pa TV pramawlajuczymi za chawrus z Rasiejaj, dyk hetkich 'bielarusaw' zaszmat pawsiul, dzie nizki wzrovien' zhyccia. Jaki scenar baczycie? Adnaja z prapanovaw - Scenar Kapitana Granta: start saprawdnaha adradzennia na dalokaj vyspie. Biaz zarcikaw. Stvarennie licvinskaha anklavu dziesci zdalok ad ciapieraszniaje Bielarusi padajecca wsio balej nieabchodnym. Pryncyp kolisznich syjanistych - "dajcie narodu biez ziamli ziamlu biez narodu". Chaj heta budzie navat tolki symbalicznaje, ale eksteratarjalnaje wtvarennie pad ehidaju UNO, kab sviet dobra wsviedamiw, szto rasiejcy vyzhyli nas z krainy. Pa-druhoje, adradzenniu zaminaje nia hetulki Luka, kolki zaszmat dziejaczow u kulturna-palitycznych bielaruskich ruchach. Jany bolej spryjajuc' zbydlaczenniu nacyji, bo baroniac' trasianku razam z' viaskovaju szerasciaj dy hetak plodziac' "bielarusaw". Szukac' apiryszcza adradzhennia dy "krynicu nacyjanalnaha duchu" w vioscy, jak robiac' Cvirka z kampanijaj, dziejaczy BNR dy szmat inszych, u suczasnym sviecie mozha tolki duran, czyja naiwnasc' miazhuje iz zlaczynstvam. Kali pry wladzie Luka, patrebny nacyjanalny anklaw! w dziesci na vyspie Tumba-Jumba abo navat u murynskim heta dzies' u ZSA. Kali da wlady pryjduc' BNR abo padobnyja, dyk - taki anklaw dzies' u Lidzie. Biaz hetaha licvinam kapiec. Cvirki dy beenery pacznuc' budavac' "talerantnuju viaskovuju Bielarus'" dy vychowvac' ludziej na bielarusaw, a potym zdziwlacca, czamu znowku niczoha dobraha nie atrymalasia. U hetaj ichnaj "krainie", jakuju ja czasam vielmi jaskrava z zhacham sabie wjawlaju, mnie miejsca nia budzie. Kres.
Date sent: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:07:25 -0700 From: Jonas, jonas@plasta.com Moze heto haroshaj ideja shob Belarus i Lietuva zjedinaetsa v jedno hosudarstvo? Czym Litva adroznivajecca ad Bielarusi? One juz adradziona, tol'ko Belarus mozet sojedinitsa k Litve.
Date sent: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:17:27 -0700 From: Boniuch Pilsztycki, ivan@un.minsk.by Admaulajuczysia ad Reczy Paspalitaje, WY admaulajeciesia j ad jaje spadczyny j razam z tym ad WKL, jak jaje czastki. Heta zh utopija! Jakimi kryteryjami WY pry "hetym" kirawalisia?! Szto dla mianie Litva? Pierelomam u swiadomasci Kim siabie liczycie? Jakim "bielarusam!? Zrazumiela, LICWINAM!!! Ci bielarusy dy licviny tojesamaje? Nie! "Bielarusy" - zhychary uschodnich kresau WKL! Jaki scenar baczycie? -- Praz federacyju z Polszczaj - Recz Paspalitaja!!!
Date sent: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:39:45 -0700 From: Geoffrey Vasiliauskas, vasiliauskas@galacticus.com Uh. What's...what's a...Vytis? Szto dla mianie Litva? -- daug metu Liczycie siabie licvinam ci bielarusam? -- koks skirtumas? A jakaja pamiz jimi roznica? -- jau atsakiau i ta klausima... Jaki baczycie scanar? -- ar tai klausimas? kur klaustukas??!
Date sent: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:05:48 -0700 From: Siergijusz Mancevicz Szto dla mianie Litva? Big sensation! Ci jo roznica pamiz licvinam dy bielarusam? Tak! licviny - bolsz ewrapiejcy. Jaki scenar? Spaczatku - duchownaje adradzennie, a pasla - budzie baczna.
From: "Andrus Juckievic"Date sent: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:02:40 +0400 26.09. hetaha roku my z Viktaram sabrali u Miensku ludziej (na zal, byli daloka nia wsie -- kala 15 calaviek). Da schodu my padrychtavali piersy probny naklad nasaje knihi - Manifest licvinaw - i wsim razdali; razdajem achvotnym i zaraz. Tam my vyklali w papuliarnaje formie nasy licvinskija asnownyja pohlady -- zdajecca, kniha atrymala sia nieblahaja. Budziem rady daslac jaje tabie -- paviedami jak. Majem, naturalna, varyjant manifestu i u file'ie, bo budziem jasce razdrukovyvac dy wnosic prawki. Taksama prystupili da raspracowki site'a -- dumajem usadzic' tudy manifest. Tvoj site vielmi dobry - dapracovyvaj. Kali skazas jak, to mozas pierakacac file'y z manifestam sabie dy wstavisz u svoj site. Bo my robim spravu ahulnuju i mozam ci navat pavinny kaardynavac svaje vysilki. Z siaredziny hetaha miesiaca my adnavili vyhlad abviestak u hazetach i dajem tam, taksama, tvoj email i adresu site'a. My utvaryli argkamitet u padrychtowcy sojmu licvinaw i pryciahnienniu novych ludziej. Na hetym musu razvitacca -- niama casu. Listuj nam na email arhkamitetu - litvania@mail.ru A.Ju.
Date sent: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:26:22 -0700 From: Jankunas, tjankun@yahoo.com What is Litva for me? Food dishes served by my mom My advice to you -- be internationaly friendly!
Date sent: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:50:29 +0400 (MSD) From: "Thomas" tjankun@yahoo.com I do like to visit my grand parents graves. Please, Bielarusi, join one of the European countries or just be a normal European -- cut restrictions for travelers, please!
From: "pdiroff" pdiroff@cac.net Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:13:07 -0400 Thank you for sending these websites. I hope in the future you will have genealogy related sites.
Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:08:34 -0700 From: Zbigniew Siemienowicz, z-siemienowicz@usa.net Nia wiedaju, pra szto maju rabic kamentar...
From: "Mike Popiel" mpopiel@tellurian.net Date sent: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:38:01 -0400 Hey Alesia. It is an amazing concept. But I would suggest to get a couple of things right. First of all, why don't you correct the following phrase on your page related to Adam Mickiewicz by changing it from: "Pan Tadewusz" starts with the following lines: "Litwo, ojczyzna moje, ty jestes jak zdrowie. Ten tylko cie dovie, chto cie stracil" to: "Pan Tadeusz" starts with the following lines: "Litwo, ojczyzna moja, Ty jestes jak zdrowie. Ile trzeba Cie cenic ten tylko sie dowie, kto Cie stracil. Dzis pieknosc Twa w calej ozdobie widze i opisuje, bo tesknie po Tobie." Another thing which should be corrected is a statement on the Tadeusz Kosciuszko page from: "he led a 1794 rebellion for Litvanian independence" to: "he led a 1794 rebellion for Litvanian Polish Commonweath independence" which was fact. During 1794 uprising (insurrection) he was a supreme military commander and civilian leader (Naczelnik) and even the king subdued his power to him. Greetings and best luck. Slawomir Popiel New Jersey
Date sent: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:09:25 -0500 From: Danny L Weddle d.l.weddle@juno.com I tried to check out your web sites and had trouble on them with AOL. I will try them later. I am interested in finding about "Down Syndrome" individuals in Belarus and what is done for them and what is not done for them in today's current climate. My interest is in the disabled--world wide. Seems like the unfortunate sometimes suffer the most in most societies. Danny Weddle
From: Michal Karol PETELCZYC petelczyc@excite.com Date sent: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:56:42 -0700 Hi! I am from Australia. Is PETELCZYC a Litvin name? How old is Litvania?
From: "Tori Streek" luckystreek@hotmail.com Date sent: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:15:04 GMT Thank you so much for the webpages, I have lost touch with my Belarusian friends and this takes me home again. I appreciate your effort and willingness to help a home sick girl out! With many thanks! Luckystreek
Date sent: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 04:54:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "spirgulys virgulys" spirgulys@yahoo.com Subject: pretty women Alesia, You are very very pretty. Best Wishes from Lithuania!
From: "Firat Islam" firatislam@hotmail.com Subject: Information Date sent: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 05:34:47 PDT Dear Sirs, I am planning to come to Litvania with my car from Rostock port but I'm not sure if I will have trouble on the Litvanian roads an customs or not. Can you help me about giving information ? Thank you
Date sent: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:33:41 +0100 From: ZEUM "ZEUM@mag.gdynia.pl" Subject: Belarus Poland Ukraine Lithuania Vielmi cikava web-staronka (fantastyczna). Czakaju kali budzie na licvinskaj movie! KASZUB z Rumi
Date sent: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:25:13 -0500 Subject: your site and ours From: "KEN WESTPHAL" ken@kenwestphal.com Alesia, A friend of mine (Belarusian) sent me your URL. I knew nothing of the Litvins before today. I look forward to reading more about Litvania. I thought the photo you chose for your portrait to be quite interesting, very artsy, not what one would expect to find on such a site. You are a beauty. I wish you well with your site and endeavors. My family (wife, 3 kids and myself) lived in Borisov for 6 months in the winter months of 1993-1994. We hope to return someday. My friend, Yuri Smirnov, and I have a site at: http://www.laza.org Please stop by. Best wishes, Ken Westphal (aka: Kesha Klarensovich)
Date sent: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:19:09 -0700 From: "Alexander Sever" comandante@mail.ru Ochen' interesnaja ideja pravo. Menya tozhe poseschala eta ideja... Za edinuyu VKL... Tol'ko mne kazhet'sya eto trudno osushestvit'........