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Subject:		Re: What do you think of this
Date sent:      	Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:35:17 -0400
From:			Mike Davidchik, davidchik@oro.net 
 
In response to Audrius attacks on Litvania Mike Davidchik wrote:
 
 
Audrius ....Your ignorance about the the history or current affairs  of Belarus could fill the Grand Canyon.
 
Lukashenka  is hardly pro-Belarussian.  He is a former Soviet Communist apparatchik who thinks he is a Russian.  
He is diametrically opposed to the Litvanian group.    
 
The re-opening of Belarussian history has nothing to do with either Lukashenka or the current state of affairs.  
Like the Baltics, it was russified and sovietized.  Under Czarist and Soviet control for three centuries, its real 
history was lost.  Some nationalists are trying to reach out to the West and you are shitting in their faces.  
This is reflective of stupid ethnocentric jerks in the Baltics who think that you can build a country in the 
20th Century based upon "tribalism" and ignorant prejudice. 
 
Belarusian ties with modern day Lithuania go back to the 12th Century when the Balts paid tribute to the Prince of 
Polacak, and later, when these Slavic tribes, known collectively as Bela Rus,  united with the Lithuanian princes 
in the 14th Century, to keep the Teutons, Mongols, and Moscovities out.  Please look at the maps of the 14th through 
17th Centuries. Old Lithuania once spread from the Baltic to the Black Sea.  It was a multi-ethnic or multi-national
country and not just a few villages around Kaunas!  For the 15th and 16th Centuries, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, 
Samogitia, and Rus, was more modern, progressive, advanced, and tolerant than the Baltic states are today.
 
Mike
 
Mike, thanks a bunch for your vehement (AND well-grounded) support!


From:           	"Boris Zyryanov", borisz@worldnet.att.net
Date sent:      	Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:52:14 -0400

The page is impressive. I have read alot about the history of
Belarus' and glad someone decided to bring VKL back to light :)
(It was not taught in schools at all during the KPSS rule, they taught
the KPSS version instead)
Don't remember the name Litvania, however.
Your transliteration technique is still very confusing.

A little question: why is the page completely written in English? Not that
I have anything against English, just having a Litvanian-language alternative 
would be nice. (t.e. make a copy of the page translated to Litvanian.)
I wouldn't want to see a Belorussian translation though, as I cannot
stand this horrible mixture of Russian with Old Belorussian, not to mention 
I dislike it in general.

- Boris



Date sent:      	Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:01:12 +0200
From:           	ZEUM Zeum@mag.gdynia.pl
Organization:   	Morska Agencja Gdynia


It's been very hard to connect Your page, lately. When the "jezyk 
polski" web side will be ready as well as as "licvinskaja mova" ?
Pozdrowienia.     Marek Redzimski


We are making Licvinskaja version in a week or two. For Polish -- well, 
I don't know. Any volunteers?


From:           	Young Front mfront_blr@yahoo.com
Date sent:      	Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:35:31 +0300

Vitaju!

Na vaszaj staroncy, nazal, jos'c' istotnaja pamylka.
Kniastva/Hercahstva pa-anhielsku 'Duchy', a nia 'Duchee'.
Prynamsi, mienavita taki pieraklad ja baczyu usio papiaredniaje zyc'cio.
Vitaju pierszuju bielarusku-webmajstarku!

Pos'piechau!

Alaksej Carniajeu,
Malady Front

Kali laska, adkazvajcie mnie tolki na mfront@visit.to, niezalezna ad
taho, adkul ja piszu.


From:           	"Alexey" fenix@pol.ru
Date sent:      	Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:24:43 +0400

Ideja vielmi fajnaja.

Minusy - niama interfejsu z prostymi bielaruskamounymi shukal'nikami u
I-necie.

Rastlumacie, kali laska, jak zkacac' drajvery dliz cytan'nia bielaruskaje
lacinki j hedac dalej. Mahu ciabie upeunic' , sto bol'sas'c' bielarusauy
Raseji patrbujuc' instrukcujau u roznych akalicnas'ciach camputarnaje
hramatyki. Pvier mnie . U inshym vypadku Litva, jak Radzima (taksama jak i
Belarus') moza byc' admouliena smatlikimi bielasusami maskowscyny, jakija
nia viel'mi kampietentnyya u kamp'juterach

Cakaju adkazu, z pavahaj Buka


From:           	"Viatcheslav_Britchkovski" brich@cit.org.by
Date sent:      	Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:33:18 +0200

F#ck you with  your site!

Anyone wants to mailbomb him? Just kidding. ;) We are pacifists.


From:           	"Alexey" fenix@pol.ru
Date sent:      	Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:51:48 +0400


Na zal' , vasaja adrese zablakavana j niama mahcymas'ci zajs'ci na
come.again.to/litvania. Ja prosty Belarus z Maskovii, jaki maje dostup
da I-netu u chacie. Viel'mi cikaulusia bielaruskimi sajtami u s'viecie. tym
bol'sh, sto tycycca Litvy. Ja licu vartym viarnuc' Ajcynie spradviecnuju
nazvu LITVA. Ja z'jauliajusia nacyjanalistam u dobrym sensie hetaha slova, 
sastaju u BNF i maju dobryja piersanal;nyja kantakty sa smat z kim ad 
Viacorki da Suskievica. Budu viel'mi udziacny za infarmacyju pra usie
bielaruskamounya sajty.
Viel'mi dziakuju.

Aliaksiej Buka


From:           	vasiliauskas@galacticus.com
Date sent:      	Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:31:30 -0700

Why isn't Great Duke STephan Batory available on the voting page?
Also, Litvania Home bars don't work. No button there.

Last week I saw information available about the Independent Belarussian
state 1918-1919, today I can't find it, and I want it. Yesterday
I couldn't reach Litvania at all by web. Please tell me more
about Independent Belarus before WWII.


Date sent:      	Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:09:32 -0700
From:           	Jan H., Moscow


Hleduczy na vaszy sajt, baczu adno toje, szto vaszyja dobryja
plany heta pokul tolki plany, biaz ichnaha staloha azhycciawlennia praz
kahos'. Razumieju, szto nieszta rabic' ciazhka, bo wsie ciapier pa szyju w
dziarmie, ale adnolkava - navoszta bylo hetak spiaszacca dy w vyniku dac'
nam, niebarakam-czytaczom, tolki holy szkilet sajtu? Tre bylo spaczatku
choc' sztos' dakladniej razpracavac'.

Dareczy, prapanavanaja vami transkrypcyja - dziwnavataja. Nawracci pisac'
padobnaju josc' dobraju jdejaju, nia kazhuczy wzho ab tym, szto
wzhyvajecca jana praz vas niepasladowna. Tre lepiej razpracavac' dy
wzajemna wzhodnic'- z transkrypcyjami na sajtach zawzhdy atrymlivajecca
adzina zhach.

Czym josc dla Vas Litva? Niczym asablivym. Zyccio mianie da jaho hetulki
padrychtavala, szto navat samy momant adkryccia zastawsia praz' mianie
niezawvazhanym.


Ci jo roznica pamiz Licvinami ji Bielarusami?
A ci jsnujuc' bielarusy? Kali bielarusy heta szeryja kmieci
j tlustyja dy szcze szarejszyja kabiety, jakich baczysz pa TV
pramawlajuczymi za chawrus z Rasiejaj, dyk hetkich 'bielarusaw' zaszmat
pawsiul, dzie nizki wzrovien' zhyccia.

Jaki scenar baczycie?
Adnaja z prapanovaw - Scenar Kapitana Granta: start saprawdnaha
adradzennia na dalokaj vyspie. Biaz zarcikaw. Stvarennie licvinskaha
anklavu dziesci zdalok ad ciapieraszniaje Bielarusi padajecca wsio balej
nieabchodnym. Pryncyp kolisznich syjanistych - "dajcie narodu biez ziamli
ziamlu biez narodu". Chaj heta budzie navat tolki symbalicznaje, ale
eksteratarjalnaje wtvarennie pad ehidaju UNO, kab sviet dobra wsviedamiw,
szto rasiejcy vyzhyli nas z krainy. Pa-druhoje, adradzenniu zaminaje nia
hetulki Luka, kolki zaszmat dziejaczow u kulturna-palitycznych
bielaruskich ruchach. Jany bolej spryjajuc' zbydlaczenniu nacyji, bo
baroniac' trasianku razam z' viaskovaju szerasciaj dy hetak plodziac'
"bielarusaw". Szukac' apiryszcza adradzhennia dy "krynicu nacyjanalnaha
duchu" w vioscy, jak robiac' Cvirka z kampanijaj, dziejaczy BNR dy szmat
inszych, u suczasnym sviecie mozha tolki duran, czyja naiwnasc' miazhuje
iz zlaczynstvam. Kali pry wladzie Luka, patrebny nacyjanalny anklaw!

w dziesci na vyspie Tumba-Jumba abo navat u murynskim heta dzies' u ZSA.
Kali da wlady pryjduc' BNR abo padobnyja, dyk - taki anklaw dzies' u
Lidzie. Biaz hetaha licvinam kapiec. Cvirki dy beenery pacznuc' budavac'
"talerantnuju viaskovuju Bielarus'" dy vychowvac' ludziej na bielarusaw, a
potym zdziwlacca, czamu znowku niczoha dobraha nie atrymalasia. U hetaj
ichnaj "krainie", jakuju ja czasam vielmi jaskrava z zhacham sabie
wjawlaju, mnie miejsca nia budzie. Kres.


Date sent:      	Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:07:25 -0700
From:           	Jonas, jonas@plasta.com

Moze heto haroshaj ideja shob Belarus i Lietuva zjedinaetsa
v jedno hosudarstvo?

Czym Litva adroznivajecca ad Bielarusi? 
One juz adradziona, tol'ko Belarus mozet sojedinitsa k Litve.


Date sent:      	Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:17:27 -0700
From:           	Boniuch Pilsztycki, ivan@un.minsk.by

Admaulajuczysia ad Reczy Paspalitaje, WY admaulajeciesia j ad
jaje spadczyny j razam z tym ad WKL, jak jaje czastki.

Heta zh utopija!

Jakimi kryteryjami WY pry "hetym" kirawalisia?!

Szto dla mianie Litva? Pierelomam u swiadomasci
Kim siabie liczycie? Jakim "bielarusam!? Zrazumiela, LICWINAM!!!
Ci bielarusy dy licviny tojesamaje? Nie! "Bielarusy" - zhychary uschodnich kresau WKL!
Jaki scenar baczycie? -- Praz federacyju z Polszczaj - Recz Paspalitaja!!!


Date sent:      	Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:39:45 -0700
From:           	Geoffrey Vasiliauskas, vasiliauskas@galacticus.com

Uh. What's...what's a...Vytis?
Szto dla mianie Litva? -- daug metu
Liczycie siabie licvinam ci bielarusam? -- koks skirtumas?
A jakaja pamiz jimi roznica? -- jau atsakiau i ta klausima...
Jaki baczycie scanar? -- ar tai klausimas? kur klaustukas??!


Date sent:      	Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:05:48 -0700
From:			Siergijusz Mancevicz

Szto dla mianie Litva? Big sensation!
Ci jo roznica pamiz licvinam dy bielarusam? Tak! licviny - bolsz ewrapiejcy.
Jaki scenar? Spaczatku - duchownaje adradzennie, a pasla - budzie baczna.


From:           	"Andrus Juckievic" 
Date sent:      	Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:02:40 +0400


26.09. hetaha roku my z Viktaram sabrali u Miensku ludziej (na
zal, byli daloka nia wsie -- kala 15 calaviek). Da schodu my
padrychtavali piersy probny naklad nasaje knihi - Manifest licvinaw - 
i wsim razdali; razdajem achvotnym i zaraz. Tam my vyklali w papuliarnaje
formie nasy licvinskija asnownyja pohlady -- zdajecca, kniha
atrymala sia nieblahaja. Budziem rady daslac jaje tabie -- paviedami jak.
Majem, naturalna, varyjant manifestu i u file'ie, bo budziem jasce
razdrukovyvac dy wnosic prawki. Taksama prystupili da raspracowki site'a
-- dumajem usadzic' tudy manifest. Tvoj site vielmi dobry  - dapracovyvaj.
Kali skazas jak, to mozas pierakacac file'y z manifestam sabie dy
wstavisz u svoj site. Bo my robim spravu ahulnuju i mozam ci navat pavinny
kaardynavac svaje vysilki. Z siaredziny hetaha miesiaca my adnavili vyhlad
abviestak u hazetach i dajem tam, taksama, tvoj email i adresu site'a.
    My utvaryli argkamitet u padrychtowcy sojmu licvinaw i pryciahnienniu 
novych ludziej.
    Na hetym musu razvitacca -- niama casu.
    Listuj nam na email arhkamitetu - litvania@mail.ru
    A.Ju.


Date sent:      	Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:26:22 -0700
From:           	Jankunas, tjankun@yahoo.com

What is Litva for me? Food dishes served by my mom
My advice to you -- be internationaly friendly!


Date sent:      	Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:50:29 +0400 (MSD)
From:           	"Thomas" tjankun@yahoo.com

I do like to visit my grand parents graves. Please, Bielarusi,
join one of the European countries or just be a normal European -- cut
restrictions for travelers, please!


From:           	"pdiroff" pdiroff@cac.net
Date sent:      	Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:13:07 -0400

Thank you for sending these websites.  I hope in the future you will
have genealogy related sites.


Date sent:      	Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:08:34 -0700
From:           	Zbigniew Siemienowicz, z-siemienowicz@usa.net

Nia wiedaju, pra szto maju rabic kamentar...


From:           	"Mike Popiel" mpopiel@tellurian.net
Date sent:      	Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:38:01 -0400

Hey Alesia. It is an amazing concept. But I would suggest to get a couple
of things right. First of all, why don't you correct the following phrase 
on your page related to Adam Mickiewicz by changing it from:

"Pan Tadewusz" starts with the following lines: "Litwo, ojczyzna moje,
ty jestes jak zdrowie. Ten tylko cie dovie, chto cie stracil"

to:

"Pan Tadeusz" starts with the following lines: "Litwo, ojczyzna moja, Ty
jestes jak zdrowie. Ile trzeba Cie cenic ten tylko sie dowie, kto Cie
stracil. Dzis pieknosc Twa w calej ozdobie widze i opisuje, bo tesknie
po Tobie."

Another thing which should be corrected is a statement on the Tadeusz
Kosciuszko page from:

"he led a 1794 rebellion for Litvanian independence"

to:

"he led a 1794 rebellion for Litvanian Polish Commonweath independence"


which was fact. During 1794 uprising (insurrection) he was a supreme
military commander and civilian leader (Naczelnik) and even the king
subdued his power to him.

Greetings and best luck.
Slawomir Popiel
New Jersey


Date sent:      	Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:09:25 -0500
From:           	Danny L Weddle d.l.weddle@juno.com

I tried to check out your web sites and had trouble on them with AOL.  I
will try them later.
I am interested in finding about "Down Syndrome" individuals in Belarus
and what is done for them and what is not done for them in today's
current climate.   My interest is in the disabled--world wide.  
Seems like the unfortunate sometimes suffer the most in most societies. 
Danny Weddle


From:  			Michal Karol PETELCZYC petelczyc@excite.com
Date sent:      	Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:56:42 -0700

Hi! I am from Australia. Is PETELCZYC a Litvin name? How old is Litvania?


From:           	"Tori Streek" luckystreek@hotmail.com
Date sent:      	Sun, 10 Oct 1999 18:15:04 GMT

Thank you so much for the webpages, I have lost touch with my Belarusian
friends and this takes me home again. I appreciate your effort and 
willingness to help a home sick girl out!
With many thanks!
Luckystreek



Date sent: 		Sat, 9 Oct 1999 04:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:           	"spirgulys virgulys" spirgulys@yahoo.com
Subject:        	pretty women

Alesia, 
You are very very pretty.

Best Wishes from Lithuania!


From:           	"Firat Islam" firatislam@hotmail.com
Subject:        	Information
Date sent:      	Sat, 09 Oct 1999 05:34:47 PDT

Dear Sirs,

I am planning to come to Litvania with my car from Rostock port but I'm not 
sure if I will have trouble on the Litvanian roads an customs or not. Can
you help me about giving information ?  Thank you


Date sent:      	Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:33:41 +0100
From:           	ZEUM "ZEUM@mag.gdynia.pl"
Subject:        	Belarus Poland Ukraine Lithuania

Vielmi cikava web-staronka (fantastyczna). Czakaju kali budzie na
licvinskaj movie!
KASZUB z Rumi


Date sent:      	Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:25:13 -0500
Subject:        	your site and ours
From:           	"KEN WESTPHAL" ken@kenwestphal.com

Alesia,

A friend of mine (Belarusian) sent me your URL.  I knew nothing of the
Litvins before today.  I look forward to reading more about Litvania.  I
thought the photo you chose for your portrait to be quite interesting, very
artsy, not what one would expect to find on such a site.  You are a beauty.
I wish you well with your site and endeavors.

My family (wife, 3 kids and myself) lived in Borisov for 6 months in the
winter months of 1993-1994.  We hope to return someday.  My friend, Yuri
Smirnov, and I have a site at:

http://www.laza.org

Please stop by.

Best wishes,

Ken Westphal
(aka: Kesha Klarensovich)


Date sent:      	Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:19:09 -0700
From:           	"Alexander Sever" comandante@mail.ru

Ochen' interesnaja ideja pravo. Menya tozhe poseschala eta 
ideja... Za edinuyu VKL... Tol'ko mne kazhet'sya eto trudno
osushestvit'........